Talk:Bob Avakian
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Early discussion
[edit]I'm NOT out to redbait here... but I don't think you can really say "he was sighted" doing something in a dictionary entry. Who said they saw him doing this?
Also sketchy is "as a result of the demonstrations" he was charged with a 241 year sentence. What were the charges actually for? etc.
=Yeah, the "over 241 years sentence" sounds ridiculous, until someone can cite a source for that it should be removed. -Xcuref1endX
Alleged whereabouts
[edit]Someone added: "Returned to the United States in 2001 and lives in Oklahoma." I've never heard this; I don't know how he could've come back without risk of prosecution. Can we verify this somehow? Everyking 22:00, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Bob Avakian is not in Oklahoma, or at least no credible sources have claimed this. The only source on this is a series of posts of various IMC sites that also accuse him of being an FBI agent, and claim the only reason for his underground status is overweight. There are a lot of people on the left and the right who dislike the RCP. Until we hear from a credible source, I suggest we leave his location blank.
- Regardless, it's hard to imagine that the statute of limitations for anything the article suggests he may have done would still be in effect. I wouldn't consider that of much influence.
Source on Tires
[edit]He was sited cutting the tires of the D.A. during the Stop the Draft Week riots, this is according to "Berekely in the Sixties" a documentary made on the history of the Berekly College.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6303947840/103-6102590-0372624?v=glance
Bibliography length
[edit]Hi all. Going through the change log I noticed a very very large growth to the bibliography section of this page on the part of one user, who has also been mostly focused on editing Revcom-associated articles in an often positively-biased tone. It’s current length is excessive and reads like an advertisement. Another user attempted to delete all of the bibliography, which was immediately reverted by a bot. What’s a good middle ground we can find here? 2601:800:4002:85E0:91F9:D435:AC40:61D7 (talk) 17:14, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed. I split the bibliography off into Works of Bob Avakian. Of course, that page still needs trimming. Freelance-frank (talk) 15:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Use of 'Cult of Personality' and NPOV
[edit]The https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Avakian&diff=prev&oldid=1275470377 edit I made on Feb 13th 2025 restored the description of the RCP as a 'Cult of Personality' around Avakian due to past guidance from Wikipedia administration that this is not vandalism or tabloid in nature if well sourced on the talk page of the RCP Talk:Revolutionary Communist Party, USA#c-Dsprc-20220812102700-Etriusus-20220812051700
It has since been reverted https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Avakian&diff=prev&oldid=1275960098, Calling it 'Vandalism' or 'Trolling to include this term as an accusation, not as fact point to a possible COI. I would like to discuss the use of the term 'Cult of Personality' as used in this article to settle this before it becomes an edit war. Sircheezball (talk) 19:01, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
"Slanderous" material
[edit]The content that is being removed about a cult of personality is cited by reliable sources. Merely claiming it is "slanderous" because it's not flattering is not sufficient reason to delete it wholesale. ... discospinster talk 22:36, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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